| 9ballprodigy |
| (enthusiast) |
| 12/14/03 01:46 AM |
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has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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i found some on ebay that look very good. has anyone ever shot with one? on a side note, what is everyone's view on southwest "style" cues?
| roscoe |
| (newbie) |
| 12/16/03 03:32 PM |
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Re: has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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Palmer cues were made by Eugene Balner at his shop in Elizabeth NJ. Balner
emigrated to the US after fleeing communist Hungary in 1956. Eugene had been a
wood turner by trade back in Hungary. Balner came to be involved in the cue
business after a Bowling and Billiards supply house inquired if he could make
cues. The owner of the Bowling and Billiards supply business introduced Eugene
to Frank Paradise. Balner partnered with Paradise and his Paradise Custom Cue
Company. Eventually Balner and Paradise had a parting of the ways and Balner
founded his own company: Palmer Cues. The name Palmer was chosen because Eugene
felt it was more recognizable. Eugene Balner passed away in January 1972 just
when he had reached the height of his skills. His son Peter continued to run
the company until he eventually abandoned it to run a video rental business:
Palmer Video.
Palmers are one of the most affordable collectible cues.
The "Palmer" cues you see being sold today are cheap imports.
Balner era Palmers are indeed highly collectible. The most sought after models
are the Model 2 which featured a mother of pearl triangle of the type used on
18th and 19th century bevel ended cues, and the Model J which featured reverse
splices made by Guz Szamboti exclusively for Palmer.
| randyg |
| (BCA Master Instructor) |
| 12/16/03 03:53 PM |
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Re: has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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roscoe: What a great post. Are you a collector of "Palmers"?....randyg
| roscoe |
| (newbie) |
| 12/16/03 04:06 PM |
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Re: has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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No. I live in NJ and have been playing seriously, on and off, since the 60's. I also did alot of very serious playing in Elizabeth when I was younger and remember the Palmers and Paradise ques. For the info I posted, I found it doing a google search for the thread starter.
Right now I have two double shafted Helmstetters that I use.
Roscoe
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| 03/12/04 09:52 AM |
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a friend of mine that i play pool with had a palmer cue given to him it is a very good shooting stick how do you identify what model it is it came with a 2 shaft 1 butt palmer case also...any help on this would be great
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| 03/13/04 11:59 AM |
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Re: has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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the cheap imports are "palmer billiards" with a triangle shaped logo. the collectibles are "palmer custom cues" or just plain "palmer". the cues with the clear band on the butt and the owner's and /or maker's name on foil inside are cues made before eugene's death.i believe the wife and son continued making cues thru about 1994. mrs. balner did the inlay work.these were production-run cues that would be customized to the buyer's request.they made many beautiful cues.
the "palmer custom cues" cases are also quite collectible and are very nice as well.
model types can be identified from old catalogues and flyers and these have been reprinted in the the billiard encyclopedia and also in the blue book of cuesif i remember correctly.
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| 03/14/04 01:16 PM |
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Re: has anyone ever heard of "palmer cues"?
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thanx larrynj...the case does have palmer custom cues printed on it & the buut has the same thing if i'm not mistaken...where would i find the 2 books that you referred to?
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| 03/15/04 10:41 AM |
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http://www.chalkers.com/id162.htm - the latest edition (3rd) of the blue book can be found here, but won't be available for another couple of months.
http://www.poolndarts.com/ - if not found on mueller's website, call them, and they may have both books in stock.
sorry, i'm too lazy to do the link thing, you can c & p.
